Bootleg Acetates
South African & USA

Kevin Goodchild:
Recent evidence has surfaced that casts doubt on the authenticity of any acetate that claim to be of South African or USA origin. This disclosure covers a wide range of artists and the regrettable impact on collectors cannot be underestimated. As Nureference is the premium site for collectors it is important to verify and authenticate all listings therefore the decision has been made to move these acetates to the Bootleg section of this website unless authenticity can be confirmed.
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South African 10 inch EID/Friends Acetate Shadow In Vain/Friends SABC 10 inch Acetate SA Replicas B Side Acetate Are 'Friends' Electric? S.A.10 Inch 3 Track Two Sided Acetate Down In The Park - Warner Bros. 10 inch Acetate You Are In My Vision - PBA 030. SA 7 inch Acetate
SA MIDFY South African Pleasure Principle Sampler South African Pleasure Principle 4 Track Cars S.A.10 Inch 4 Track One Sided Acetate Cars/Airlane SA One Sided Acetate Sided Acetate SA Cars/Observer Acetate
SA Cars/Engineers 12 Inch Acetate Tracks SA One Sided Acetate This Wreckage S.A. One Sided Acetate Telekon 2 track RSA 702 radio show XB-191-B SA I'm An Agent/I Dream Of Wires Acetate Cars E Reg SA
WEA 1427 10 inch Acetate South African 10 inch TA acetate South African TA Sirens acetate SA agent-IDOW 7inch I Die You Die US Test Pressing My Brothers Time
She's Got Claws Telekon Remind Me To Smile Crash A Subway Called You Nighttalk
You Are, You Are Boys Like Me
You Are In My Vision - PBA 030. SA 7 inch Acetate
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7 Inch Acetate Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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7 Inch Acetate Back.
*Survival Records*
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7 Inch Acetate 'A' Label.
*Stuart Hall*


Possible single but not released for the South African market

WEA 1427 10 inch Acetate
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Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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Back Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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A Side.
*Stuart Hall*
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B Side.
*Stuart Hall*


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A Side Label.
*Stuart Hall/Complexoid*
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B Side Label.
*Stuart Hall/Complexoid*


Side 2 only lists 'The Machman' but it also plays 'You Are In My Vision' as track 4

South African Tubeway Army Acetate - Me, I Disconnect From You/You Are In My Vision 2 Track One Sided 7"
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Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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Back Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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A Side.
*Stuart Hall*
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B Side.
*Stuart Hall*
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A Side Label.
*Stuart Hall*


Track Listing:-1. Me, I Disconnect From You 2. You Are In My Vision (Stuart Hall)

South African Pleasure Principle Sampler
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South African 'A' Label.
*Survival Records*
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South African 'B' Label.
*Survival Records*


The full track listing of the acetate is: SIDE A: Complex, Films, Observer. SIDE B: Cars, Films, Engineers (2.43 edit). (Survival Records)

South African Pleasure Principle 4 Track 10" EP
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South African PP 4 Track Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African PP 4 Track Back Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African PP 4 Track A Side.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African PP 4 Track B Side.
*Stuart Hall*


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South African PP 4 Track A Side Label.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African PP 4 Track B Side Label.
*Stuart Hall*


The track times have been edited to fit on the 10" EP, Conversation having been extensively edited for a different style of releases in RSA (Stuart Hall)

South African 1.st Album 10 Inch Acetate
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South African 1.st Album Acetate Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African 1.st Album Acetate Front.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African 1.st Album Acetate Back.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African 1.st Album Acetate Label.
*Stuart Hall*


Double sided 10" Acetate pressed in South Africa back in November 1979, Pressed on a SABC (South African Broadcasting Corporation) Label, Label lists 'Listen To The Sirens' and 'The Life Machine' but plays 'Listen To The Sirens' and 'My Love Is A Liquid'.(Frank Macari).

South African EID/Friends SABC 10 Inch - Acetate
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South African Acetate Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Front.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Back.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Label.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Alternate Label.
*Stuart Hall*


B side plays 'The Dream Police', not 'Friends' (Private Collector)

SABC 10 Inch Acetate
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South African Acetate Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Front.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Back.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Label.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Label.
*Stuart Hall*


Track listing "My Shadow In Vain" on the a side "Friends" on the b side, SABC Stands For South African Broadcasting Company.

South African 10 Inch TA acetate
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South African Acetate.
*Survival Records*
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South African 'A' Label.
*Survival Records*


This Acetate (which plays at 33rpm) features a selection of 4 tracks taken from Tubeway Army's first studio album 'Tubeway Army' recorded in 1978 and re-released after the success of 'Replicas' and 'The Pleasure Principle' in 1979.
The Matrix Number is LT-338, The first Tubeway Army LP was subsequently never released on vinyl in South Africa which may suggest why this was not pressed on a Warner Brothers label.
Side A plays - Are You Real? Jo The Waiter, Side B plays - My Love Is A Liquid, Listen To The Sirens (Survival Records).

SA Replicas B SIde Acetate
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South African Acetate Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Back Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Back Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Back Cover.
*Stuart Hall*

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South African Acetate Full Disc.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Full Disc.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Label.
*Stuart Hall*


Track listing - A: You Are In My Vision, Replicas, It Must Have Been Years. B: When The Machines Rock, I Nearly Married A Human (Stuart Hall)

Down In The Park - WB South African. 10 inch Acetate
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10 Inch Acetate Back.
*Survival Records*
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10 Inch Acetate 'A' Label.


Contains an Alternate Version (Different Beginning And Ending)

Are 'Friends' Electric? - S.A.10 Inch 3 Track Two Sided Acetate
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South African 'A' Label.
*Survival Records*
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South African 'B' Label.
*Survival Records*


WEA Makes It Happen - 4 Track One Sided Acetate
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South African Cover.
*Survival Records*
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South African 'A' Label.
*Survival Records*
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South African 4 Track Back Detail.
*Survival Records*


Cars/Airlane - South African One Sided Acetate
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South African Acetate Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Back Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Label.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Label.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Label.
*Stuart Hall*


SA Cars/Engineers 12" Acetate
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South African Acetate Back Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Back Cover.
*Stuart Hall*

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South African Acetate Full Disc.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Full Disc.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Label.
*Stuart Hall/Survival Records*
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South African Acetate Label.
*Stuart Hall/Survival Records*


Engineers (Alt).Track fades in the middle , but still the same edit as the album version.
The B side contains an un-named track (Stuart Hall)

SA Cars/Observer 12" Acetate
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South African Acetate Promo Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Back Cover.
*Stuart Hall*

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South African Acetate Full Disc.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Full Disc.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Label.
*Stuart Hall*


Track listing "Cars/Observer" on the a side "Metal/Tracks" on the b side

SA Cars/Observer 7" Acetate
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South African Acetate Promo Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Back Cover.
*Stuart Hall*

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South African Acetate Label.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Label.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Label.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Acetate Label.
*Stuart Hall*

Track listing "Cars/Observer" on the a side "Metal/Tracks" on the b side

Tracks - South African One Sided Acetate
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SA Tracks Complex Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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SA Tracks Complex Back Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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SA Tracks Complex Full Disc.
*Stuart Hall*
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SA Tracks Complex Full Disc.
*Stuart Hall*


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SA Tracks Complex 'A' Label.
*Stuart Hall/Survival Records*
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SA Tracks Complex 'B' Label.
*Stuart Hall/Survival Records*
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SA Tracks Complex Warning Letter.
*Stuart Hall/Survival Records*


This acetate (which plays at 33rpm) features a shorter edit of 'Tracks' and is backed with 'Complex' and a further track that features both 'Tracks' and 'Complex',The acetate also includes a letter from The Association of the South African Phonographic Industry (ASAPI) advising of the un-authorised re-recording of gramophone records within South Africa and Southern Rhodesia.

Cars 'E' Reg - South African Acetate
Scan Needed

This Wreckage - S.A. One Sided 10 Inch Acetate
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South African 'A' Label.
*Survival Records*
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South African 'B' Label.
*Survival Records*


This exclusive version features a different beginning, middle and end and runs for 6 minutes and 28 seconds.

South African I'm An Agent/I Dream Of Wires 7 Inch Acetate
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South African Agent/Wires Acetate Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Agent/Wires Acetate Back Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Agent/Wires Acetate A Side.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Agent/Wires Acetate B Side.
*Stuart Hall*


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South African Agent/Wires Acetate A Side Label.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African Agent/Wires Acetate B Side Label.
*Stuart Hall*


Incorrectly titled 'I Am An Agent' on label - Timed at 3min 6 sec and finishes abruptly,the common CD version is timed at 4min 19sec,
I Dream of Wires. timed at 3min 17sec ,whereas the CD version finishes at 5min 10sec.

South African Telekon 2 track 702 radio show XB-191-B
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South African TELEKON 2 track Acetate Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African TELEKON 2 track Acetate Back Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African TELEKON 2 track Acetate Full Disc.
*Stuart Hall*
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South African TELEKON 2 track Acetate Full Disc.
*Stuart Hall*


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South African TELEKON 2 track Acetate A Side Label.
*Stuart Hall*


The 2 tracks played are The Joy Circuit and Telekon both on a 1x sided disc. This is the 2nd disc XB-191-B of the 2 disc available in this set (Stuart Hall)

I Die You Die US Test Pressing
Scans needed

Telekon - US Atco Acetate
Scans Needed

Remind Me To Smile - US Atco Acetate
Scans Needed

I Die You Die - US Atco Acetate
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I Die You Die U.S ATCO 7" Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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I Die You Die U.S ATCO 7" Back Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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I Die You Die U.S ATCO 7" Full Disk Front.
*Stuart Hall*
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I Die You Die U.S ATCO 7" Full Disk Back.
*Stuart Hall*
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I Die You Die U.S ATCO 7" Label.
*Stuart Hall*


Crash - US Atco Acetate
Scans Needed

A Subway Called You - US Atco Acetate
Scans Needed

My Brothers Time - US Atco Acetate
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My Brothers Time ATCO 7" Front Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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My Brothers Time ATCO 7" Back Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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My Brothers Time ATCO 7" Full Disk Front.
*Stuart Hall*
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My Brothers Time ATCO 7" Full Disk Back.
*Stuart Hall*
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My Brothers Time ATCO 7" Label.
*Stuart Hall*


Nighttalk - US Atco Acetate
Scans Needed

She's Got Claws - US Atco Acetate
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She's Got Claws U.S ATCO 7" Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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She's Got Claws U.S ATCO 7" Back Cover.
*Stuart Hall*
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She's Got Claws U.S ATCO 7" Full Disk Front.
*Stuart Hall*
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She's Got Claws U.S ATCO 7" Full Disk Back.
*Stuart Hall*
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She's Got Claws U.S ATCO 7" Label.
*Stuart Hall*


You Are, You Are - US Atco Acetate
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Boys Like Me - US Atco Acetate
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Boys Like Me U.S ATCO 7" Cover.
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Boys Like Me U.S ATCO 7" Back Cover.
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Boys Like Me U.S ATCO 7" Full Disk Front.
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Boys Like Me U.S ATCO 7" Full Disk Back.
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Boys Like Me U.S ATCO 7" Label.


*Stuart Hall*


















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